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Crime is taken seriously by Ming Campbell

I am pleased with Ming Campbell's approach on the issue of Crime. To quote from his speech:

A party which is serious about social justice cannot fail to be serious about preventing crime and enforcing the rules.
I want to be clear: I support the discriminating use of ASBOs in tackling crime and discouraging anti social behaviour.

Liberal Democrats in local government have used ASBOs to good effect.
Penalties should go beyond custody. People like Ian Huntley should not have the vote. If you are guilty of a serious breach of the law, you forfeit the right to elect those who make the law.


TonyF said…
So why does your party still believe people like Huntley should have the vote? Why hasn't anyone said that Oatens ridiculous idea of Go Kart lessons for car thieves should be chucked in the bin? Will the Lib Dems still give car thieves lessons in car mechanics? Still want to raise the age of criminal responsibilty? I suggest you spend a night in a Council flat, then you'll know what crimes are a priority to ordinary people. Hell, you might even find out what real anti social behaviour is. I suggest the Lindhurst Estate. Getting tough on crime? Don't make me laugh!
john said…
The point is that I have never believed that Huntley should have the vote. The change is that my perspective on these issues is becoming into the ascendency in the party.

Hence the party will adopt the approach taken by the party in Birmingham.

I live next door to council flats in any event.
TonyF said…
I said the Lindhurst, I think you'll find that people living there would rather live over your patch. So come on John, are you and the rest of your buddys in Council up to a night of mental torture? Or are you all quite happy to put the people through it and play the three monkey game. By the way, if you agree, we'll pick the flat
PoliticalHack said…
Ming may take it seriously - hey, he has a job to try and save - but he doesn't write party policy. Or are you arguing that the LD constitution is irrelevant?
Bob Piper said…
Hack... If he's not, I am!
TonyF said…
Hack, the LD constitution is there to fill up a few pages on the LD website.
john said…
Parliamentary Group Policy is determined by the Parliamentary Parties in the House of Commons and House of Lords.

General Election Manifesto issues are obtained by a double latch from the Conference and Parliamentary Parties.
TonyF said…
And Party Policy is decided by the Federal Party. If you're going to say something John, say it properly
john said…
I accept that I am bound by the manifesto upon which I stood unless I made it clear to the electorate in my consituency where I disagreed with it.

I work with my colleagues in the parliamentary party by discussion at the meeting of the parliamentary party.

The double latch applies in practise to the manifesto.

Regardless of what is said by any documents the above applies in practise. There are conflicts between the Bill of Rights 1688 and other documents.

The Bill of Rights takes precedence.
TonyF said…
So Bob, Hack, the constitution is irrelevant.
john said…
The constitution of the Lib Dems is, of course, relevant.

Constitutional Laws of the UK take precedence.

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